Thanks Magpie

[opal]

2 other groups that I did not know about, or knew about but did not ever
visit. My aims are small, a place to go for a quick message; be it a post
alert, some group info, security tips for dummies or the possible hint on
where to look if things go pear shaped. Kudos to gnube for finding this
spot. In my opinion things are working just like they should. Not really
interested in an exclusive, private club (not sure which "four" you alluded
to earlier...?) at the moment. Hope this sounds the way it's intended..but
IMO things are rolling along quite nicely just as they are.

[one tiny setback]

Post by opal
2 other groups that I did not know about, or knew about but did not ever
visit. My aims are small, a place to go for a quick message; be it a post
alert, some group info, security tips for dummies or the possible hint on
where to look if things go pear shaped. Kudos to gnube for finding this
spot. In my opinion things are working just like they should. Not really
interested in an exclusive, private club (not sure which "four" you alluded
to earlier...?) at the moment. Hope this sounds the way it's intended..but
IMO things are rolling along quite nicely just as they are.

Hello, opal!

I do not have time to discuss this thoroughly,
but please take my advice:

Stay in Usenet! It's one of the last places that
are *relatively* safe for those who lurk and D/L
only.

Avoid any kind of P2P if you don't absolutely know
what you are doing. You *can* be found if you D/L
from P2P unsafely.

Never engage in any activity that obligates you to
reveal any personal info to anyone. Nothing about
who you are, where you live, etc, and especially
not your IP or email addy. For best results, do
not even name your hobbies or interests if you are
non-anonymous.

Trust no one.

I hope to post a small test tomorrow in my usual
spot. I can make no promises - I just want to
test my posting capability. If it even partially
succeeds you will at least know that I am who
I say that I am.

--
ots

[unknown]

Post by one tiny setback

Post by opal
2 other groups that I did not know about, or knew about but did not
ever visit. My aims are small, a place to go for a quick message; be it
a post alert, some group info, security tips for dummies or the
possible hint on where to look if things go pear shaped. Kudos to gnube
for finding this spot. In my opinion things are working just like they
should. Not really interested in an exclusive, private club (not sure
which "four" you alluded to earlier...?) at the moment. Hope this
sounds the way it's intended..but IMO things are rolling along quite
nicely just as they are.

Hello, opal!
Stay in Usenet! It's one of the last places that are *relatively* safe
for those who lurk and D/L only.
Avoid any kind of P2P if you don't absolutely know what you are doing.
You *can* be found if you D/L from P2P unsafely.
Never engage in any activity that obligates you to reveal any personal
info to anyone. Nothing about who you are, where you live, etc, and
especially not your IP or email addy. For best results, do not even
name your hobbies or interests if you are non-anonymous.
Trust no one.
I hope to post a small test tomorrow in my usual spot. I can make no
promises - I just want to test my posting capability. If it even
partially succeeds you will at least know that I am who I say that I am.

True, usenet is absolutely great for picking up images and some other
goods. Problem is that you have to rely on people getting around to
posting what you want and hoping that its all there...blah blah, you
know the problems. Also, if you want anything large like an
application, game, or movie then your chances of a successful download
are less and you must be timely in the downloads or miss the
oppurtunity all together as the posts expire. Obviously I am a great
fan of usenet though and you'll find some material here that you will
never find anywhere else. But the nice thing about apps like KDX or
Carracho is that the files are there in their entirety, and there for
as long as the admin of the server deems to keep it available. You also
get the benefit of being able to search for specific files on a server.
What I really like is the ability to chat in real time with multiple
individuals from all over the world.
Yes, don't reveal any personal information. Fortunatly, you are not
obligated too when you use certain "p2p" apps. KDX allows for proxies
and total anonymity, the file and chat transfers are encrypted so your
ISP or anyone else can't see what youre doing. If you don't want to
collect what we collect by any other fashion than usenet, cool, I don't
either. I mean, hell, youre the first folks I have ever talked to about
it, ever. But if you are interested in some of the more main stream
stuff like the latest aplications for youre mac or copy of that movie
or game you have been wanting then I would recomend KDX or Carracho for
us mac guys. I can vouch for it as I have been a heavy user for over
ten years. google Haxial KDX and read up. While youre at it, google
"bit torrents" thats a whole other bag for getting stuff too,
effective, but not as fun. Don't limit yourself, like the big purple
garden plant said " have Fun, stay Safe" ( god, I miss that guy already
)
Cheers,
Magpie
--
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• long-tailed black-and-white crow that utters a raucous chattering call
• someone who collects things that have been discarded by others
• chatterer: an obnoxious and foolish and loquacious talker



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Post by unknown

Post by one tiny setback

Post by opal
2 other groups that I did not know about, or knew about but did not
ever visit. My aims are small, a place to go for a quick message; be it
a post alert, some group info, security tips for dummies or the
possible hint on where to look if things go pear shaped. Kudos to gnube
for finding this spot. In my opinion things are working just like they
should. Not really interested in an exclusive, private club (not sure
which "four" you alluded to earlier...?) at the moment. Hope this
sounds the way it's intended..but IMO things are rolling along quite
nicely just as they are.

Hello, opal!
Stay in Usenet! It's one of the last places that are *relatively* safe
for those who lurk and D/L only.
Avoid any kind of P2P if you don't absolutely know what you are doing.
You *can* be found if you D/L from P2P unsafely.
Never engage in any activity that obligates you to reveal any personal
info to anyone. Nothing about who you are, where you live, etc, and
especially not your IP or email addy. For best results, do not even
name your hobbies or interests if you are non-anonymous.
Trust no one.
I hope to post a small test tomorrow in my usual spot. I can make no
promises - I just want to test my posting capability. If it even
partially succeeds you will at least know that I am who I say that I am.

True, usenet is absolutely great for picking up images and some other

If it works, don't fix it.

Post by unknown
goods. Problem is that you have to rely on people getting around to
posting what you want and hoping that its all there...blah blah, you
know the problems. Also, if you want anything large like an

KDX or any other P2P software does not change any of
that - you are still dependant upon whether someone
uploads - and P2P introduces a whole world of other
problems, not the least of which is a visible IP.

Problem with Usenet (for LEA) is that it's absolutely
fucking huge, and difficult to monitor. (If only there
was some way for LEA to herd prospective users into small,
easily-monitored groups where their IPs and other personal
info could be easily harvested....)

Post by unknown
application, game, or movie then your chances of a successful download
are less and you must be timely in the downloads or miss the
oppurtunity all together as the posts expire. Obviously I am a great
fan of usenet though and you'll find some material here that you will

Of course you're a fan of Usenet, that's why you're
pushing KDX and other P2P software so hard.

Post by unknown
never find anywhere else. But the nice thing about apps like KDX or
Carracho is that the files are there in their entirety, and there for
as long as the admin of the server deems to keep it available. You also

The great thng about Usenet is that things can be
posted in plain sight, yet in complete obscurity,
and disappear quickly without a trace. LEA really
hates that.

Post by unknown
get the benefit of being able to search for specific files on a server.
What I really like is the ability to chat in real time with multiple
individuals from all over the world.

Uh... you mentioned in another thread that you have
the ability to search for things in Usenet as well.

And for this type of hobby, real-time chat is not
needed (although opal, gnuBe, and I did manage to
do some real-time chatting here yesterday).

Post by unknown
Yes, don't reveal any personal information. Fortunatly, you are not

Part of that is making sure that your *software*
is not revealing personal info behind your back.
KDX = P2P = visible IP = bad news.

Post by unknown
obligated too when you use certain "p2p" apps. KDX allows for proxies
and total anonymity, the file and chat transfers are encrypted so your

NO! KDX DOES *NOT* allow for proxies! The makers
of KDX claim that Socks proxies are obsolete. They
suggest that one *might* try to SocksCap the KDX app,
but they make no guarantee that it will work.

I already know for a fact that it WILL NOT work.
KDX is P2P software. *Someone* has to be a server
in a P2P relationship, and for that to happen their
IP *must* be known.

I'm going to level with you right now:
On my one-to-ten scale for whether I believe
you are LEA, you're registering at a fifteen
with your above statement.

Post by unknown
ISP or anyone else can't see what youre doing. If you don't want to

Your recipient can sure as hell see what you're
doing, and if that recipient is LEA, then he also
has the IP of the server that you're running.

Period.

Post by unknown
collect what we collect by any other fashion than usenet, cool, I don't

I don't believe you've actually mentioned what
you collect - could it be that you are trying to
collect all of *us*?

Post by unknown
either. I mean, hell, youre the first folks I have ever talked to about
it, ever. But if you are interested in some of the more main stream

As a matter of fact, *no one* seems to be talking
about it - I find no mention of KDX on *numerous*
boards. That's rather odd, as I have ways to find
out about *anything*.

Post by unknown
stuff like the latest aplications for youre mac or copy of that movie
or game you have been wanting then I would recomend KDX or Carracho for

P2P = "penis-to-penis" (for males anyway), because
if you do anything illegal with it, you can be
quite easily found and most certainly jailed.

Post by unknown
us mac guys. I can vouch for it as I have been a heavy user for over
ten years. google Haxial KDX and read up. While youre at it, google

You're a fucking liar - neither product has been around
for ten years. That's directly from their product pages.

Post by unknown
"bit torrents" thats a whole other bag for getting stuff too,
effective, but not as fun. Don't limit yourself, like the big purple
garden plant said " have Fun, stay Safe" ( god, I miss that guy already
)

Compared to what you offer, Usenet is "safe".
I think I'll "stay" here.

Oh, and I don't miss veggie - he's still around,
and I know how to get in touch with him if the
need arises.

Post by unknown
Cheers,
Magpie

Nice to meet you, Officer Magpie!

--
ots

[rod]

Post by one tiny setback

Post by unknown

Post by one tiny setback

Post by opal
2 other groups that I did not know about, or knew about but did not
ever visit. My aims are small, a place to go for a quick message;
be it a post alert, some group info, security tips for dummies or
the possible hint on where to look if things go pear shaped. Kudos
to gnube for finding this spot. In my opinion things are working
just like they should. Not really interested in an exclusive,
private club (not sure which "four" you alluded to earlier...?) at
the moment. Hope this sounds the way it's intended..but IMO things
are rolling along quite nicely just as they are.

Hello, opal!
Stay in Usenet! It's one of the last places that are *relatively*
safe for those who lurk and D/L only.
Avoid any kind of P2P if you don't absolutely know what you are
doing. You *can* be found if you D/L from P2P unsafely.
Never engage in any activity that obligates you to reveal any
personal info to anyone. Nothing about who you are, where you live,
etc, and especially not your IP or email addy. For best results, do
not even name your hobbies or interests if you are non-anonymous.
Trust no one.
I hope to post a small test tomorrow in my usual spot. I can make
no promises - I just want to test my posting capability. If it even
partially succeeds you will at least know that I am who I say that I am.

True, usenet is absolutely great for picking up images and some other

If it works, don't fix it.

Post by unknown
goods. Problem is that you have to rely on people getting around to
posting what you want and hoping that its all there...blah blah, you
know the problems. Also, if you want anything large like an

KDX or any other P2P software does not change any of
that - you are still dependant upon whether someone
uploads - and P2P introduces a whole world of other
problems, not the least of which is a visible IP.
Problem with Usenet (for LEA) is that it's absolutely
fucking huge, and difficult to monitor. (If only there
was some way for LEA to herd prospective users into small,
easily-monitored groups where their IPs and other personal
info could be easily harvested....)

Post by unknown
application, game, or movie then your chances of a successful download
are less and you must be timely in the downloads or miss the
oppurtunity all together as the posts expire. Obviously I am a great
fan of usenet though and you'll find some material here that you will

Of course you're a fan of Usenet, that's why you're
pushing KDX and other P2P software so hard.

Post by unknown
never find anywhere else. But the nice thing about apps like KDX or
Carracho is that the files are there in their entirety, and there for
as long as the admin of the server deems to keep it available. You also

The great thng about Usenet is that things can be
posted in plain sight, yet in complete obscurity,
and disappear quickly without a trace. LEA really
hates that.

Post by unknown
get the benefit of being able to search for specific files on a
server. What I really like is the ability to chat in real time with
multiple individuals from all over the world.

Uh... you mentioned in another thread that you have
the ability to search for things in Usenet as well.
And for this type of hobby, real-time chat is not
needed (although opal, gnuBe, and I did manage to
do some real-time chatting here yesterday).

Post by unknown
Yes, don't reveal any personal information. Fortunatly, you are not

Part of that is making sure that your *software*
is not revealing personal info behind your back.
KDX = P2P = visible IP = bad news.

Post by unknown
obligated too when you use certain "p2p" apps. KDX allows for proxies
and total anonymity, the file and chat transfers are encrypted so your

NO! KDX DOES *NOT* allow for proxies! The makers
of KDX claim that Socks proxies are obsolete. They
suggest that one *might* try to SocksCap the KDX app,
but they make no guarantee that it will work.
I already know for a fact that it WILL NOT work.
KDX is P2P software. *Someone* has to be a server
in a P2P relationship, and for that to happen their
IP *must* be known.
On my one-to-ten scale for whether I believe
you are LEA, you're registering at a fifteen
with your above statement.

Post by unknown
ISP or anyone else can't see what youre doing. If you don't want to

Your recipient can sure as hell see what you're
doing, and if that recipient is LEA, then he also
has the IP of the server that you're running.
Period.

Post by unknown
collect what we collect by any other fashion than usenet, cool, I don't

I don't believe you've actually mentioned what
you collect - could it be that you are trying to
collect all of *us*?

Post by unknown
either. I mean, hell, youre the first folks I have ever talked to
about it, ever. But if you are interested in some of the more main
stream

As a matter of fact, *no one* seems to be talking
about it - I find no mention of KDX on *numerous*
boards. That's rather odd, as I have ways to find
out about *anything*.

Post by unknown
stuff like the latest aplications for youre mac or copy of that movie
or game you have been wanting then I would recomend KDX or Carracho for

P2P = "penis-to-penis" (for males anyway), because
if you do anything illegal with it, you can be
quite easily found and most certainly jailed.

Post by unknown
us mac guys. I can vouch for it as I have been a heavy user for over
ten years. google Haxial KDX and read up. While youre at it, google

You're a fucking liar - neither product has been around
for ten years. That's directly from their product pages.

Post by unknown
"bit torrents" thats a whole other bag for getting stuff too,
effective, but not as fun. Don't limit yourself, like the big purple
garden plant said " have Fun, stay Safe" ( god, I miss that guy
already )

Compared to what you offer, Usenet is "safe".
I think I'll "stay" here.
Oh, and I don't miss veggie - he's still around,
and I know how to get in touch with him if the
need arises.

Post by unknown
Cheers,
Magpie

Nice to meet you, Officer Magpie!
--
ots

I guess you told him...Ouch! LOL! rod

[unknown]

I am not to get anybody to jump ship. and I am not a cop, apparently I
am just stupid. I started collecting back in the days of p.u.. I know
you have to remember that. when it was mostly just mclt and black cat
and rika. when I saw you guys looking for a place to chat when ls
slowed down I figured it was an oppurtunity to finally say hi to some
you and I guess I got overenthusiatic. I have been using p2p since the
days when hotline was only mac, fuck, I don't know, late 90s so I
exagerate and say 10years but its been a long time, at least to me it
seems like awhile and its been good to me. I don't get anything except
warez, music, and flicks from it. Jesus, don't use it, what the fuck, I
don't care. I have a fat collection of stuff and I thought mistakingly
for an instant while there where only a few people around that it would
be a kick ass way to round off what I don't have (kw for example). I
should have known better than to have even opened up my yap. Ive seen
how a guy gets flamed if he steps out of line and thats what I got and
worse, flame broiled. now I'm lea. that irony is going to be
particularily painful if I get busted for just even trying to talk to
you guys. I come hot and excited that I finally get to talk with
someone and I came on all hot and excited and full of ideas, stupid
ones, I guess, but I wanted to be included in the conversation. I got
all wordy and defensive of kdx cause ots just popped right up and told
opal that p2p was a bad method and he did that without even saying boo
to the guy who was talking about it. Just like having someone step into
a conversation and put his back to you like youre not there. I am sure
you guys enjoy talking to each other because i am sure you don't talk
to the guys at work or accross the street about collecting, I wanted to
get in on that. Yeah, I know KDX is not mentioned on the "boards".
usenet people seem to be a whole different breed than the ones I
actually talk to in carracho and kdx, those guys are mostly in college
or in the industry (music, art) or just stoner tech weenies, but mostly
20 somethings. Usenet guys are much older from what I can tell and from
a broader spectrum of society. The admin of a server I frequent thinks
I have two heads because I use usenet so much, but he doesnt flame me
for it cause I up him a bunch of stuff he can't find in the p2ps. Oh,
when I said missed eggplant, I did not mean it a terminal kind of way.
I know he's gone missing before, last time because his machine shit the
bed, and I am sure he'll be back posting somewhere else so don't think
I am writing an obit.

Oh, and OTS, seriously, I appreciate how you have stuck it out and I
know youre an expert and all and that you contribute a lot. But turn
the fucking ego down a bit. Everyone knows youre cool already, you
don't have to prove it by kicking me in the head. and thanks for
spittin on me while I was down rod. When I said long time listener I
was refering to usenet and the fact I have never posted before, posting
scares the shit out me. The graphical viewer is Diiva. Now you can tell
me what an idiot I am for using that too.
Gnube, thanks for letting me hang around. Opal, thanks for being nice,
dont change. You too CloudDancer.
Back to my perch and be quiet.
"officer" Magpie
and yeah, yeah, OTS, I can hear it already,
"thats right cop/whiner, go crying home to mommy"
I can still lurk and download, so thats good, I am just bummed I am
doing it alone.
But then again, it aint to friendly around here anyway.
--
Definitions of magpie:
• long-tailed black-and-white crow that utters a raucous chattering call
• someone who collects things that have been discarded by others
• chatterer: an obnoxious and foolish and loquacious talker



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[rod]

Post by unknown
I am not to get anybody to jump ship. and I am not a cop, apparently I
am just stupid. I started collecting back in the days of p.u.. I know
you have to remember that. when it was mostly just mclt and black cat
and rika. when I saw you guys looking for a place to chat when ls
slowed down I figured it was an oppurtunity to finally say hi to some
you and I guess I got overenthusiatic. I have been using p2p since the
days when hotline was only mac, fuck, I don't know, late 90s so I
exagerate and say 10years but its been a long time, at least to me it
seems like awhile and its been good to me. I don't get anything except
warez, music, and flicks from it. Jesus, don't use it, what the fuck, I
don't care. I have a fat collection of stuff and I thought mistakingly
for an instant while there where only a few people around that it would
be a kick ass way to round off what I don't have (kw for example). I
should have known better than to have even opened up my yap. Ive seen
how a guy gets flamed if he steps out of line and thats what I got and
worse, flame broiled. now I'm lea. that irony is going to be
particularily painful if I get busted for just even trying to talk to
you guys. I come hot and excited that I finally get to talk with
someone and I came on all hot and excited and full of ideas, stupid
ones, I guess, but I wanted to be included in the conversation. I got
all wordy and defensive of kdx cause ots just popped right up and told
opal that p2p was a bad method and he did that without even saying boo
to the guy who was talking about it. Just like having someone step into
a conversation and put his back to you like youre not there. I am sure
you guys enjoy talking to each other because i am sure you don't talk
to the guys at work or accross the street about collecting, I wanted to
get in on that. Yeah, I know KDX is not mentioned on the "boards".
usenet people seem to be a whole different breed than the ones I
actually talk to in carracho and kdx, those guys are mostly in college
or in the industry (music, art) or just stoner tech weenies, but mostly
20 somethings. Usenet guys are much older from what I can tell and from
a broader spectrum of society. The admin of a server I frequent thinks
I have two heads because I use usenet so much, but he doesnt flame me
for it cause I up him a bunch of stuff he can't find in the p2ps. Oh,
when I said missed eggplant, I did not mean it a terminal kind of way.
I know he's gone missing before, last time because his machine shit the
bed, and I am sure he'll be back posting somewhere else so don't think
I am writing an obit.
Oh, and OTS, seriously, I appreciate how you have stuck it out and I
know youre an expert and all and that you contribute a lot. But turn
the fucking ego down a bit. Everyone knows youre cool already, you
don't have to prove it by kicking me in the head. and thanks for
spittin on me while I was down rod. When I said long time listener I
was refering to usenet and the fact I have never posted before, posting
scares the shit out me. The graphical viewer is Diiva. Now you can tell
me what an idiot I am for using that too.
Gnube, thanks for letting me hang around. Opal, thanks for being nice,
dont change. You too CloudDancer.
Back to my perch and be quiet.
"officer" Magpie
and yeah, yeah, OTS, I can hear it already,
"thats right cop/whiner, go crying home to mommy"
I can still lurk and download, so thats good, I am just bummed I am
doing it alone.
But then again, it aint to friendly around here anyway.

If you have been around as long as you say you have, you'd be able to
post by now. Undercover Cops can't smoke a joint or snort coke while
trying to bust a drug dealer. So post something to prove your not lea,
something that has not been post already. We'll be your best friend, if
not then we'll assume ots is right.